This article refers to America and the Democrat Party, but it also applies to NZ and Labour, and the UK and Labour, and most of the main left political parties throughout the western world.
Democratic Socialists of America Reach Their Goal Ahead of Time
By Kerem Oner
DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) is the largest socialist organization outside of the CPUSA (Communist Party U.S.A.) honest enough not to masquerade as something other than what they are. In 1997 DSA goals to attain by 2017 included:
A U.S. President from the Progressive Caucus, a 50 member socialist caucus in Congress, successful programs of the likes of universal health care, progressive taxation, social provision and campaign finance reform.
Little could they have known that almost a decade before their deadline, they would have practically achieved every one of their stated goals.
Their not-so-secret plan to achieve these goals was to take over the Democrat party, which they accomplished as apparent from the current crop of Democrats and the demise of the conservative, true “blue dogs” like former Democrat Senator Zell Miller (GA), whose book ‘A National Party No More’ is a must read for every American who cares to inform themselves about the transformation of the Democrat party.
The CPUSA also joined the DSA in this goal as far back as the 1970s and admits that their members run for political office under the banner of the Democrat party.
In fact, the CPC (Congressional Progressive Caucus), with its 83 declared members, openly espouse the principles of socialism and publicly had signed onto the agenda of the Democratic Socialists of America. It was organized by the DSA per DSA’s own admission.
Like Obama with his seemingly multitudinous radical associations, the current estimated number of Democrats who were active in DSA (or had very close associations with likes of DSA or CPUSA), is well above their 1997 goal of 50 congressional members.
TrueblueNZ 
20 responses to “General Debate 19/03/11”
Check out this disgraceful and cowardly attack on NZ Conservative by Clint Heine
http://clintheine.blogspot.com/2011/03/gee-i-wonder.html
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Heine is a fuckwit. And fuckwits like him are the reason ACT is such a directionless, confused fuck up. They unwittingly buy into so many left-wing ideas but they’re too arrogant and foolish to ever realize it (ditto for the Libertarianz)
And I don’t know why these pseudo-liberals are always so damn hypersensitive to anything critical said about queers.
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That is one of the most despicable posts I have seen. If Heine had any concept of honour or self respect, he would take it down. Just such a cowardly smear.
And you’re dead right about ACT. If they are content to harbour people like Heine within their ranks, they fully deserve their 0.5% rating in the latest Roy Morgan poll.
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The biblical perspective – but food for thought for all:
Japan today, Jerusalem tomorrow
A new poll conducted by the National Association of Evangelicals reveals that a majority of its members would agree that the recent earthquakes in Haiti, New Zealand and Japan are signs of the soon coming return of Jesus.
The survey shows that more than half of respondents adhere to the theological position known as Premillennialism, which interprets the Book of Revelation to be speaking of yet future events. In contrast, only 17 percent of those polled say they believe most biblical prophecy has already been fulfilled.
I recently appeared on a popular Detroit radio station alongside fellow author, prophecy expert and friend, Gary Demar, to discuss and debate these issues. Demar is one of the most outspoken voices for the minority of evangelicals who believe that through the influence of the Christian church, the world is gradually improving and will eventually reach a “Christianized” golden age. This fairly modern position has made some gains within mainstream Evangelicalism over the past few decades.
Many in the Charismatic Christian movement, through the influence of what is called the New Apostolic Reformation Movement, have also embraced this position. On the other end of the political spectrum, many liberal-leaning “Emergent” or anti-Zionist Evangelicals, such as Brian McClaren, Stephen Sizer, Gary Burge and Andrew Perriman, also argue that the events described in the Book of Revelation are now history. A survey of the arguments that dominate social media and Christian forums will reveal that the Christian church today is quite divided over this theological question.
So do the recent earthquakes in Haiti, New Zealand and Japan have any relevance with regard to the return of Jesus? Absolutely. If we consider the words of Jesus as well as some very stunning earthquake statistics, then a clear picture emerges, pointing to the soon coming of the return of Jesus.
First, it needs to be noted that Jesus taught that even as one can look to various “signs” within nature as indicators regarding the changing of seasons, so also should we look to some specific signs with regard to the prophetic seasons and the drawing near of the time of redemption.
Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.
– Luke 17:29-31
When evening comes, you say, “It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,” and in the morning, “Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.” You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.
– Matthew 16:1-3
Elsewhere, Jesus told us that among the signs of his return would be earthquakes. But the primary analogy that Jesus used to describe the last days earthquakes were birth contractions, which we all know are universally characterized by a progressive increase in both frequency and intensity:
There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.
– Matthew 24:7-8
And once more, the ultimate result of the return of Jesus will be a massive earthquake that literally transforms the topography of Jerusalem and devastates the whole earth:
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
– Zechariah 14:4
Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake.
– Revelation 16:18
With all of this in mind, it is fascinating to take note of some astounding statistics that were brought to my attention last year by my friend, Pastor Cecil Boswell, from Nashville, Tenn. Pastor Boswell has spent a lot of time reviewing and calculating statistics from the U.S. Geological Survey. By analyzing the records of ancient earthquakes as well as every earthquake in modern times that registered a 7.0 or higher on the Richter scale, the picture that emerges is portentous indeed.
* From 1 A.D. to 1800 there were approximately 28 major earthquakes recorded in history. This results in an average of one major earthquake approximately every 60 years.
* From 1801-1900 there were approximately 31 earthquakes 7.0 or higher. This results in one major earthquake approximately every 3.2 years.
* From 1901 to 2000 there were 222 major earthquakes 7.0 or higher. This results in an average of one major earthquake every 6 months.
* From 2000 to 2003 there were approximately 59 earthquakes of 7.0 or higher. This results in approximately one major earthquake every 24 days.
This brings us to recent times. One of the most notable major earthquake was in Bam, Iran, on Dec. 26, 2003. Exactly one year later, Dec. 26, 2004, Sumatra, Indonesia, experienced another massive earthquake and a subsequent devastating tsunami. Between these two earthquakes, more than 330,000 lives were lost.
* From 2004 to 2007, there were 56 major earthquakes 7.0 or higher. This results in an average of one major earthquake every 25 days.
* In 2008, there were 12 major earthquakes 7.0 or higher. This results in an average of one major earthquake every 30 days.
* In 2009, there were 17 major earthquakes 7.0 or higher. This results in an average of one major earthquake every 20 days.
* In 2010, there were 22 major earthquakes 7.0 or higher. This results in an average of one major earthquake every 15 days.
I have no question that the scoffers will scoff at this information, but the numbers don’t lie. In fact, based on the undeniable patterns, on March 4, six days before the earthquake in Japan, Pastor Cecil sent me the following e-mail:
Prediction: The longest amount of time last year that the earth went without a major (7.0 or greater) earthquake was 57 days. We haven’t had a major earthquake since January 18th of this year. As of today, we stand at 45 days without a major quake. I am predicting a major (7.0 or greater) earthquake BEFORE Wednesday, March 17th. … my prediction is that there will be a major earthquake sometime within the next week!
Sadly, even within the church, there will be those who claim that this information means absolutely nothing and that Christians should pay no attention. But for the majority of believers out there who take Jesus’ words at face value, who are watching the specific signs that Jesus spoke of, the evidence is all there. The contractions are increasing in both intensity and frequency. I believe there is a birth on the horizon.
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Redbaiter,
Thanks for letting me know about that post of Clint’s. I have replied.
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“And I don’t know why these pseudo-liberals are always so damn hypersensitive to anything critical said about queers.”
Yeah, weird ain’t it? Indoctrinated I’d guess.
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Nice response Lucia. What a disgusting prick he is.
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Well Heine found a good way to get deleted off my blogroll…
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RB,
Thanks!
I have number of people obsessed with me that have made similar posts in the past. It’s so easy to lose track, yet they never seem to forget. Good reason to remain anonymous.
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PinkoFZ,
And I’ve just added you to mine. 🙂
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I’ve been a bit quiet the past few days. Feeling a little under the weather, as well as starting a new job, has taken a lot of the bark out of me (temporarily, I hope).
Kris, I’m certainly not the bible scholar you are but one thing I’m pretty sure of is the warning against trying to predict when the Son of Man will return. I agree it’s gotta be close, but he does say things like ‘no man shall know the hour’ and ‘I come as a thief in the night’. I guess the message is ‘be ready, for it could happen any time’!
Anyway, to my point…I couldn’t let Heine’s outrageous smear go without some form of comment.
First, the reference to kiddy-fiddling within the Catholic church. The Catholics have become a convenient scapegoat for the child abuse that occurred in a number of institutions last century. All of the press is about paedophile priests (which, as Lucia points out, is factually incorrect – mostly there were instances of pederacy, not paedophilia), and one almost never hears about the abuse carried out in institutions run by other organisations (including *shock, horror* the state). While I do believe the abuse of children was wide-spread and covered up for many decades, at least now the Catholics are exorcising this particular demon (even if in many cases they are being dragged kicking and screaming to do so). No mention in the media of other institutions paying compensation or apologising to their victims!
Second, the issue of homosexual marriage, which Heine doesn’t mention but rather alludes to. I wonder how Heine feels about his own party’s position on this subject. There’s currently nothing on Marriage under the ‘Policies’ or ‘Plan’ links on ACT’s website, but put the word ‘Marriage’ into the search box and, among other results, you will find:
On 28 April 2004, ACT (in the form of the brilliant Muriel Newman, who they should be grovelling and begging to come back and save them) put out a press release saying: “While the Government’s lack of investment into essential infrastructure is holding the country back … Labour is busy putting its legislative effort into the gay agenda.
Members of Parliament will soon be asked to vote on the Civil Union Bill, which seeks to provide homosexual couples with a contract akin to marriage.
This is the fifth Bill Labour has introduced during its term of office that many consider to be a State invasion into private affairs. A sixth – to widen adoption laws to allow de-facto and gay couples to become eligible parents – is still on the drawing board.
The first of these Bills is the Property (Relationships) Amendment Bill, which introduced the same legal property protection to couples that choose not to marry as to those who do marry. In doing so, the Bill undermines the value of marriage: why bother to marry in New Zealand when you can get the benefits of marriage by simply living together?
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While socialist politicians appear comfortable seeing the seeds of family disintegration germinate – since the family offers the greatest defence against State control – those who oppose socialism should cast political correctness aside and support marriage in order to arrest the decline of the nuclear family.
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Since Labour has been in power, ACT has steadfastly opposed each of the anti-family Bills that it has introduced. The Government intends that the Civil Union Bill will, however, be a conscience vote. Because its effect would undoubtedly be to further undermine marriage, I do not believe I can support it.
I stand for marriage – not in a moral or religious sense, but in a pragmatic one. Knowing the multitude of benefits that marriage brings, to children in particular – as well as to couples, their wider families and their communities – I believe that the only responsible course of action is to support efforts to strengthen marriage, and to oppose changes that would weaken it.”
On 28 July 2005 Rodney Hide published a press release that said: “ACT Leader Rodney Hide said today he was astonished that United Future’s Larry Baldock had pulled his Marriage (Gender Clarification) Amendment Bill.
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ACT had determined to support it to the select committee stage.
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The Bill’s success would have been a huge embarrassment to Helen Clark and the Labour Party and so astonishingly United Future pulled their own Bill despite campaigning on it.”
In The Letter, published on 13 December 2005, ACT said “Ten days ago we reported that Labour believed it was facing defeat on the Marriage Bill, to declare that a marriage is between a man and a woman. The bill was easily defeated. As we correctly stated all Labour MPs “consciences” turned out to be the same as Clark’s, (except Phillip Field’s). Don Brash suggested to his caucus it would be good politics to support to select committee the United Party bill. A dozen National MPs decided their consciences would not let them including would be leader Simon Powell who voted against the Civil Union Bill and then opposes the Marriage Bill. Go figure.” Having a crack at the communist lesbian and her Rainbow Coalition for defeating a bill that would declare a marriage to be between a man and a woman.
So while there’s nothing current it appears the historical position within the ACT party has been that marriage is, always has been and always should be a union between a man and a woman.
Funny that.
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Heine just smeared one of the finest families it’s ever been my pleasure to know. All I can say is, I wish to hell most families came up to that standard–the future of NZ would be in safe hands if they did.
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“And I’ve just added you to mine.”
Good on you Lucia, he’s one of the good guys.
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Gant- good comment.
Angus nutshelled it-
“fuckwits like him are the reason ACT is such a directionless, confused fuck up.”
🙂
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Exactly right. Prick would be more at home in the Libertarianz. Morally relativist and politically confused.
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I’m sorry to say that if ACT keep going the way they are, they’ll soon be rivaling the Libertarians in total vote numbers.
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Then a new party will rise. As much as the usual suspects would like to deny it, there is a large number of Conservatives and (classical) Liberals in New Zealand who are currently sans voice. We know we can’t rely on National for they are wolves in sheep’s clothing. If ACT goes, a new voice will appear. My hope is it will be led by people with morals, values and an ideological compass, such as Dr. Newman. Who knows, perhaps the Coastal Coalition will broaden its focus and enter the fray.
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Yeah, wonder what happened with the Reform Party. They seemed to be suffering from the same kind of political confusion as ACT.
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Anybody able to tell me if Clint Heine has any official position within ACT. Just a supporter right? What about on campus? Was he leader there or what? If anyone could provide that information it would be appreciated.
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AFAIK he doesn’t hold any official position within the party … not that they publish the names of their office-holders on their website.
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