General Debate 09/02/11

Fairfacts Media has an excellent story on further corruption and waste at the UN and in Helen Klark’s department, the UNDP. Note the silence on this issue in NZ’s politically corrupt media. Fairfacts Media.

Interesting comparison of polling.

ABC Poll (May 1980)- Carter(Obama) Leads Reagan(Palin) 58% to 40%. 18% Spread

PPP (February 2011)- Obama(Carter) Leads Palin(Reagan) 55% to 38% 17% spread

Yet on November 4th, 1980 Ronald Reagan won 44 out of 50 states. Giving him 489 electoral votes and Carter only 49. Moral of the story, Sarah Palin may be trailing Obama by 17%, but polls this far out mean absolutely nothing. Only fools misunderestimate Sarah Palin. Every chance she can refudiate the lies and propaganda of the left wing media and win the Presidency.

The Believe it Or Not Department

The First Time I Heard Of Barack
By Tom Fife
11-20-8

During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.

V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause – a cause she obviously was not abandoning. One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.’s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge – one her husband tried to quietly rein in. The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this: “You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven’t you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn’t do it.”

The general response went something along the lines that you don’t vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don’t vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket. “Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon.”

The consensus we expressed was that we didn’t think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not. “What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?”

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, “Well, you will; and he will be a Communist.” It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.”

“Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call “Ivy League“. You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your President.”

She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter of factly – as though all were foregone conclusions. “It’s all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won’t have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.”

We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he’d be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air. She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. “Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet.”

At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn’t understand what the point was and don’t recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: “If I remember correctly, ‘Barack’ comes from the Arabic word for ‘Blessing.’ That seems to be an odd name for an American.” She replied quickly, “Yes. It is ‘African‘”, she insisted, “and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.”

She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.

So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

Well, it’s definitely anecdotal. It doesn’t prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.



Categories: Culture, General Debate

6 replies

  1. Watch ‘Inside Job’

    Commodities, Wall St, White House = starvation

    http://www.realecontv.com/videos/commodities/commodity-speculationhunger.html

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  2. Nothing about Obama would surprise me. That he is clearly anti-American, anti the West, anti-Christian, anti Israel, pro Marxism, pro Islam, and that the ideologies he is for seem to be linked to financing and/or putting him into power does tend to leave one with the impression that he has been groomed for the role he now fills as President of the US – and hence, by default, leader of the free world.

    It still amazes me that someone most people had never heard of prior to 2008 managed to become President of the U.S. There is no question that there are “wheels within wheels” operating where Obama is concerned.

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  3. Well people certainly responded in Nov 2010…

    If the Repubs gain the Senate and the Presidency in 2012 too, they better “refound America” or freedom will certainly be in it’s most downtrodden phase since 1776…

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  4. Interesting tale about the Obamination, Red.
    I did a google search on it and found the story has been around for some time.
    But no-one seems to have debunked it.
    You Tube features a recording of Tom Fife being interviewed.

    And you can also email him, so Tom must be a real guy.
    http://digg.com/news/story/Is_Obama_a_Communist_Plot_Tom_Fife_Interview
    This bizarre story certainly seems worth investigating.

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  5. Yeah, its one of those stories that has the ring of truth to it FF, but I also once read a book that made a plausible case for the moon being a hollowed out space ship.

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