Mitt Romney Not Natural Born Citizen?

Mitt Romney's grandfather Gaskell settled in Salt Lake City after fleeing the Mexican Revolution in the early 1900s

Some claim Obama is a not a legitimate President as he was not born in the US, but in Kenya, and this fact has been covered up.

Others agree Obama is not a legitimate President, but claim where he was born does not matter because in the first place, he does not meet Presidential “natural born citizen” requirements as specified in the American Constitution.

(For people recently educated in NZ’s government schools, the American Constitution is the country’s founding document and specifies many of the basic rules concerning how government should be operated in the US. As some clowns in NZ claim the TOW does to this country.)

What are these “natural born citizen” requirements? Again, there is some dispute over the exact meaning of this phrase, but it is generally accepted that a natural born citizen (different to a natural citizen, or a naturalized citizen) must have both a father and a mother who were themselves born in the US.

The founding fathers included this specification expressly to ensure that any US President was loyal to the US, and only to the US and not to any other country. Obama’s presidential style, having as its centerpiece an anti-US internationalist political view, is exactly what they sought to guard against.

Others claim a “natural born citizen” can come from parents who were not necessarily born in the US but were at least naturalized as US citizens before producing the child.

Either way Obama cannot get a pass as his father was never a US citizen. (although some dispute this).

However here is the rub. If this rule is applied to Obama, so must it be applied to Mitt Romney. There are reasonably credible stories (that I have yet to confirm –confirmed, see update below) that Mitt’s father was born in Mexico of a Mexican father and never became a naturalised US citizen. (Mormons settled in Mexico to avoid laws on monogamous marriages) IOW, Mitt fails to qualify as a “natural born citizen”. Same as Obama.

Could this all along be the reason behind the Republican Party’s obstinate reluctance to apply a Constitutional ruling to Obama’s presidency? They knew in doing so they would be hoist on their own petard and if Obama was kicked out, so would Mitt be deemed ineligible.

It’s obvious now that the Republican Party establishment had Mitt locked into the 2012 nomination four years ago. Were they therefore downplaying the Obama natural born citizen issue all this time expressly to avoid having to ditch Mitt? Maybe, maybe not, but if it ever turned out to be so, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

Update- Confirmed Mitt Romney’s father born in Mexico-

Mitt Romney’s father, George, was born in Colonia Dublan, one of the colonies in northern Mexico that the Romneys settled in after their arrival. His mother, Lenore LaFount Romney, was born in Utah.

When Romney’s father was five years old, the Mexican Revolution broke out and his parents moved back to the United States to avoid the violence. Mitt Romney was eventually born in Michigan.

George Romney quit his campaign for the Presidency in 1968 in a move that surprised many political observers. There was speculation at the time that he quit because of his non-American citizenship.

George Romney presidential campaign, 1968

13 thoughts on “Mitt Romney Not Natural Born Citizen?

  1. My take on “Natural Born” is that the person themselves must have been born in the United States (or perhaps been born to American embassy staff overseas) and would reasonably require at least one of their parents to be an American citizen.

    The wiki bears this out:

    The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth,” including any child born “in” the United States (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country).

    It goes on to add though: the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.[1]

    and this is where it gets murky I guess, as the criteria there becomes far more flexible, especially if the parents hold dual citizenships, something I thought wasn’t allowed by the USA until recently.

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  2. So my question was: Was his mother a legitimate American citizen? In contrast to Obama, I thought there was also some speculation that Obama wasn’t actually born in Hawaii? What was the citizenship status of his parents, if he was?

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  3. One thing I have learned about Wiki is that it is quite useful in terms of non-political matters, but incredibly left biased otherwise.

    The term “natural born citizen” should be taken to mean what it meant when the framers used it, and that was quite clearly, as established by European precedent, that the child’s parents must have both been born in the US and retained their US citizenship their whole lives. (not disavowing it by taking up other citizenship)

    If one disagrees with this and says that Obama is a citizen because even if he was Kenyan born his mother was a US citizen, there is still disagreement on the basis that at the time of Obama’s birth, his mother was not of the required legal age to transfer citizenship to him.

    Obama’s father AFAIK was never an American citizen and held a Kenyan passport and was according to some reports kicked out of the country as an undesirable.

    Another claim against Obama is that he took up Indonesian citizenship, thereby quite clearly disqualifying himself from the Presidency. Obama has never been challenged on this by his media cheer squad, and all his records are locked away so that the charge remains unproven. Some say his US school records show he was granted a special scholarship as an Indonesian. This is why he has those records sealed as well.

    The whole situation is an absolute disgrace and proves that the media are not really the media but a left wing political force deliberately denying people the knowledge they need to make choices about their political candidates. At worst, the President is counterfeit and should be jailed for fraud. (falsely swearing to be a natural born US citizen).

    The “media’s” complicity proves democracy in the US is defunct.

    This while they subpoenaed George W Bush for his dental records, went dumpster diving by the score in Sarah Palin’s rubbish, dove into Herman Cain’s marital life and pulled out newsletters on Ron Paul from decades ago.

    The media is not the media anymore, but has been infiltrated by liberals and progressives and transformed into a left wing political force.

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  4. There’s a fascinating article in your sidebar, Red, from the New Hampshire Post & Email about the fight to have B Hussein Obama removed from the NH ballot. It mentions the cowardice of both the Ballot Commission and the State SC. It also makes mention of Minor v Happersett, the only time the SCOTUS has determined the meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”. BHO does not meet the standard. He is illegitimate. And if that removed Romney from contention as well, well that would be a great shame, wouldn’t it?

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  5. Minor vs Happersett was about sufferage.
    Re “since the adoption of the fourteenth amendment, a woman, who is a citizen of the United States and of the State of Missouri, is a voter in that State, notwithstanding the provision of the constitution and laws of the State, which confine the right of suffrage to men alone”.

    Do you have a link to any “natural born” definition info therein?

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  6. Minor isn’t as strong as this bloke reckons.

    But a reasonable summary…..still too much emphasis on what a ‘natural born’ is NOT for my liking.

    Click to access natural-born-defined-by-minor.pdf

    ‘Those outside the natural-born citizen “class” were subject to doubt regarding US citizenship. And the Court in Minor exercised judicial restraint by avoiding that issue. When Wong Kim Ark was decided in 1898, some of those doubts were re- solved in favor of US citizenship for those persons not in the class of natural-born citizens.
    But that case DID NOT open the class of natural-born citizens to include persons born in the US WITHOUT citizen parents.”

    The plurals are important.

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  8. what I see going on is a Democratic party Defining this Natural Born Claim and they are doing under the guise of a 1608 ENGLAND COMMON Law instead of Constitutional law , through the CALVIN RULE , which basically says that you only need ONE parent a Citizen at the time of BIRTH to be Natural Born in this 1868 14th Amendment ruling ,
    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-20/opinion/chin.natural.born_1_natural-law-united-states-and-subject-citizenship-clause?_s=PM:OPINION
    This link is the 2008 claim of McCain’s ineligibility under Federal Constitutional law ;
    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract-id=1157621
    I want them to investigate if there was a Conspiracy to cover-up both Obama and McCain as Ineligible to be president by both Democrats and Republican elites because they found out that McCain was in question AFTER the Senate approved him and that kept Obama free from scrutiny because the democrats had this Questionable research on McCain and told him they would pitch it to the Public and wipe out the republican party if they said anything about Obama not being eligible .

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