Louis Crimp- What Redbaiter Would Have Said To Jane Luskin

Jane Luskin was the craven cultural Marxist who interrogated NZ citizen Louis Crimp on TV3 concerning his recent attempts to criticise the “Maorification of NZ by the revolving door Labour and National governments.

Crimp is not all that articulate, or though if you listen hard, amongst all the prejudicial cutting of the interview by the Progressive propagandists who call themselves reporters and run that dirty little viper’s nest of Marxists called the TV3 newsroom, he doesn’t do too bad.

In the entirely fantastic event that I would have been interviewed by the nauseatingly wet liberal Luskin, here’s how I would have responded to her lame and predictable remarks and questions-

Luskin- (speaking of the haka and the Maori World Cup opening Ceremony)

“(it’s) Highly symbolic of something that generates a lot of pride among NZers.

You only need to look at the response to the rugby world cup and the opening ceremony and say that it got praise from around the world including Kiwis living overseas, you sorta can’t argue with that.”

Redbaiter-

“Well you can argue with that and I will if that’s OK you horrible little fascist anti-free speech PC Marxist. Even if I agree with the premise of your question (which I don’t) since when was this a country where it is forbidden to hold unfashionable viewpoints?

You have no evidence to support your claim that the ceremony was supported by the majority of NZers. Why don’t you hold a referendum on your program and test that assertion?”

Crimp then went on to say that even though Maori were only 15% of the general population, they made up 52% of the jail population.

Luskin-

“Don’t you have to look at the causes behind that?”

Redbaiter-

“The causes are obvious to anyone who is not a PC liberal like you Jane, and they’re that Maori commit an inordinate amount of crime compared to the rest of the NZ population. Why are you so anxious to conceal that truth?”

They then discussed government funding of the development of Maori language, with Crimp objecting to the amount of money being spent on this project. This really upset Luskin-

“Its an offical language of NZ. But it was the first language spoken in NZ so why would you object? The original inhabitants weren’t the British.”

Redbaiter-

“I don’t care a damn if its official, or was proclaimed to be so by some gutless pandering politician somewhere. If I don’t approve of taxpayer money being spent on this damn farce I will say so and I don’t care a jot that its an offical language or not, given I don’t agree with that proclamation anyway.

Furthermore the language that is being pushed today as “Maori” was not necessarily the “first language spoken in NZ”. There is no way you can know if that is true. Given the uncertainty over previous settlements, the first language spoken in NZ could have been any language. Another thing- the language spoken back then probably bears little resemblance to what “Maori” claim as their language today.

So what if the first inhabitants were not the British, English is the world language and the language of commerce, and if there is any money to be spent on teaching people a language it should be spent on English given that standards are so atrocious in schools today.”

Crimp said (in response to Luskins statement concerning the British being the first inhabitants) that at the time, “there were only a few savages around”.

Luskin-

“Is that how you see people now as savages?”

Redbaiter-

“That’s not what I said. Please do not try and put words in my mouth. I said they were savages then, and this is a claim born out by many reports of cannibalism and tribal conflict from those days. It comes back to the core of my original objection. Why highlight and use a ritual that harks back to those savage days to open the Rugby World Cup?”

Luskin-

“Do you understand why some people find this extremely offensive?”

Redbaiter-

“I’m not the least bit worried about “offending” people. I speak what I believe to be the truth and if some are offended by that then too bad. It is better that people are encouraged to speak truth rather than hide it because somebody somewhere may be “offended”. This is a policy that would lead to a country being awash in lies, just as NZ is today.

Now get out of my face you disgusting pandering Marxist sycophant.”

BTW, what did Luskin say to Crimp that prompted him to ask the question about sex against a tree? I notice this did not make the air. C’mon Jane, tell us what you said.

16 thoughts on “Louis Crimp- What Redbaiter Would Have Said To Jane Luskin

  1. I’d love to see a liberal torn to shreds in an interview like this. It’s probably already happened, they just never let it out.

    From this article in the herald http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10807412 it seems (predictably) that he’s now receiving abuse and death threats from these ‘peaceful people’.

    “I think when I get back to Invercargill I’ll see the police and get a gun so if anyone tries to do nasty things to me I’ll shoot them, in self-defence of course.” – Pretty normal behaviour to defend oneself.

    Also: “If they want a special language that nobody understands anywhere out of New Zealand they should pay for it themselves with all the billions of dollars they’ve got out of us tax payers, they can pay for a cranky scheme like this with their own money.”

    Sounds like common sense to me, and many NZers I know would agree with the sentiment.

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  2. The NZ leftoid revisionist narrative has to pretend that Maoridom isn’t a failed primitive culture with nothing to say about the values of success in the 21st century.
    The language is a joke, it has no written form except that provided by the Western culture of success that has allowed every advance of modernity to flow to the second wave of immigrants to NZ, ie Maori.

    When you can do a medical degree or a Boeing 737 manual in maori, let me know….until then, if you want to condemn Maori kids to irrelevance get them pretending the maori language is an alternate language for NZ.

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  3. My first high blood pressure reaction after watching the interview was , as you ask, what prompted the response about the sex and tree?
    This was a gift to set him up but we need to know about the lead up.
    I see many nodding heads out there from those who saw Crimp but those heads are reluctant to pop up above the parapet.
    Wisharts book is good reading at this time.
    Great post Red.

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  5. Gee completely misses the point.
    No-one worries when the Maori language is used like poi dancing and the haka, as a quaint cultural remnant. They’re not for me but as long as it isn’t compulsory, fill your boots.
    The problem for your coming generations of kids, Gee, is that they might actually believe the ideological bullsh*t that Maori is some 21st century capable language alternate and equal to English on which lives and careers can be built. That’s the best current example of denial in NZ society.

    Now I don’t want to make you nervous, but consider how the straitjacket of the Maori language suits the Maori elites very well.
    If you don’t have the words to think about a concept, especially a political concept, you can neither understand it nor challenge it.
    Getting it yet, are you?

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  6. Thanks for that B2. I “get it”. But Māoridom actually has some really brilliant emerging leaders who have not suffered in their understanding of political concepts merely because their first language was not English (check out http://vimeo.com/34542900 or google the names Ngaa Rauuira Pumanawawhiti or Jamie Tuuta). Neither is anyone suggesting that Māori language should be used as an alternative to English. Why does it offend you so that we should be able to speak our own language? Have you ever had any contact with Kura Kaupapa or Kohanga Reo? Do you personally know anyone who has come out of that system of education? How can you judge the merits of a language based on your own limited understanding of it? There are some Māori people who voice ideas that are absolutely abhorrent to me, just as there are pākehā who offend me with theirs. Unfortunately, it seems to you the idea of having to deal with Māori on any level is offensive.

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  7. Deliberately or otherwise, you misunderstand B2’s point, tara. Nobody is offended that you want to speak “your” language. What is offensive is that others, with absolutely no connection to, nor desire t learn, your language are forced to fund it. If Maori (collectively) want to preserve the language, let them use some of the completely over-the-top “treaty settlement” funds lavished upon them for that purpose.

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  8. “Neither is anyone suggesting that Māori language should be used as an alternative to English.”
    Excellent, so now you’ve decided your kids shouldn’t be mendicants and Maori isn’t the alternate language for NZ, please tell Luskin.

    Or have you?
    Here’s a relapse:
    “Do you personally know anyone who has come out of that system of (language) education?”
    Bwaaaa……I don’t know any Maori language teachers or flax weavers, because that’s what the Maori language educates you to do.
    I do know that you can’t “come out of that system ” and use Maori language to be anything in science, commerce, the law, any technical pursuit, engineering, aviation or teaching outside a Maori language school….the list of what you can’t do is endless.

    Unless by Maori you mean an English sentence with a single word like “pakeha” dropped into it.

    “Offend” me? Errr what?
    Speak Maori as much as you like as long as it is as a cultural artifact and not an alternative to English.
    I’ve got a vested interest in not encouraging failed lives for those halfwits who are told by implication by Luskin that it is.
    Because I eventually pay with my taxes for every posturing Maori failure.

    You keep missing the point. It’s not the “emerging leaders” I fear for, it’s their Maori victims.

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  9. I have no connection to dairy farming. Yet I am “forced to fund” irrigation schemes that, if you should apply your theory, farmers themselves should have to pay for. Are you saying that all education should be user pays? All health care? All road user fees? I have no connection to Christchurch, but I am happy for my taxes to go to helping rebuild the city. We all pay for things that don’t effect us in this system.
    And although I was trying to avoid the subject of Treaty settlements, as it only churns up more discontent, I will give you this example for “over the top” Waitangi deals. At the time Waikato land was forcibly taken from the Tainui people they had already begun to embrace the new settlers system. They were supplying their produce not only all over New Zealand but also exporting to Australia. The total value of the “over the top” settlement that Tainui got was worth less than 2% of the entire land value. This did not take into account a hundred odd years worth of loss of profits nor the social problems that stemmed from making thousands of people homeless. What do you suggest would have been a more appropriate figure?

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  10. Easily demolished. Is that special Maori logic as constructed by very limited concepts in a very limited language perhaps?

    We come together to fund items that contribute to the common good…education, medicine, roads, common infrastructure in ChCh (that unless it is rebuilt will cost the whole country more money to support a derelict ChCh), funding Maori language…..bwaaa, pick the odd one out.

    Point missed again.

    You better address some of the points made in my posts if you want further attention.

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  11. A more appropriate figure would have been $0. No living person made any offense against any living person. No offense having been committed, no recompense is necessary. It is a great regret that had Cook merely anchored for 6 months, he would likely have found an uninhabited wasteland, because Maori would likely have wiped themselves out. Do those tribes attacked, defeated, enslaved and eaten by other tribes seek recompense for those atrocities? No, I thought not.

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  12. “Do you personally know anyone who has come out of that system of (language) education?”
    Bwaaaa……I don’t know any Maori language teachers or flax weavers, because that’s what the Maori language educates you to do.
    I do know that you can’t “come out of that system ” and use Maori language to be anything in science, commerce, the law, any technical pursuit, engineering, aviation or teaching outside a Maori language school….the list of what you can’t do is endless.

    Actually your assumption that the only jobs available for people who have graduated from Māori immersion units is as teachers or flax weavers, as well as obviously being very offensive, demonstrates my point. You do not know anything about this system and therefore are in no position to judge it. If you honestly believe that children leave a kura kaupapa system with no more that the ability to speak a different language you’re either blinded by your own prejudice or willfully misunderstanding in order to demonstrate your own beliefs.

    “Excellent, so now you’ve decided your kids shouldn’t be mendicants and Maori isn’t the alternate language for NZ, please tell Luskin”
    As I’ve said in previous posts no one is suggesting that Māori be used as an alternative to English. Jane Luscombe was correct in saying (word for word) that “it’s an official language of New Zealand”. It’s actually one of three.

    I have addressed many of your points. You have chosen to misinterpret every word of my replies. You have also chosen to insult me by stating I have “Maori logic as constructed by limited concepts” as well as insinuating that all Māori are halfwits and failures.

    I will not sink to the same level as you and so am happy to end this conversation.

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  13. Geeez, don’t you understand that quoting my points doubly emphasises your pathetic zero argument “replies”?

    Now this is truly amazing…..

    “If you honestly believe that children leave a kura kaupapa system with no more that the ability to speak a different language…..”

    Are you implying that English optional incompetent Maori graduates of the “system” don’t matter as long as they have absorbed some “Madrasa”-like Maori concepts?

    Try re-reading this 50 times , see if just some of the consequences sink in, just some.

    “Do you personally know anyone who has come out of that system of (language) education?”
    Bwaaaa……I don’t know any Maori language teachers or flax weavers, because that’s what the Maori language educates you to do.
    I do know that you can’t “come out of that system ” and use Maori language to be anything in science, commerce, the law, any technical pursuit, engineering, aviation or teaching outside a Maori language school….the list of what you can’t do is endless.”

    PS. Anyone that thinks a 150 year old commercial or govt deal (good or bad outcome) is new again every decade or so is beyond help. It won’t last.

    And here’s a word to the wise…….
    Many years ago a matey who used to be a mover and shaker in the National Party informed me in advance of large immigration flows to NZ.
    The reasons were the amateur “domestic market size” excuse and the more interesting “counter to Maori cultural politics”…….
    The reasoning went that the forelock tugging pakeha kids were educated no different to their parents, but that Asian immigrants won’t give a rats arse about Maori and their victimhood, just how hard they work.

    Seems I got a strategic heads up.

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  14. What was that noise? Sounded like the stamping of feet and the slamming of a bedroom door in response to B2’s “facts” and “logic”. Obviously not how a certain someone is used to being handled (being a member of the protected class, and all).

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